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Still Confused? October 30, 2008

Filed under: Life... The Way I See It — candidchatter @ 5:23 am
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Allow me to clear things up for you.


6 weeks gestation
I have seen all of my babies except Jeremy
around the 6th week. They all (even the one
we lost in miscarriage) had heartbeats this early.

8 weeks gestation

10-12 weeks gestation

12-16 weeks gestation

20 weeks gestation
At this stage a partial-birth abortion
would be performed.

6 months gestation

Unborn baby nearly full term
3D Ultrasound Image

A newborn baby moments after birth.

So now remind me again.
When is a baby a human?
When is it ok to murder one?
Show me which picture you think fits
the “right time” to abort the child.

Vote Republican.

 

16 Responses to “Still Confused?”

  1. You didn’t include that pix…

    It would have been a blank photo…because there is never a time to murder a baby…born or unborn.

    My question has always been why some people think it is okay to murder a yet-to-be-born baby, but would gasp if someone suggested murdering a day old baby…a baby is a baby…a life is a life…

    The people who believe as Mr. Obama does should at least be consistent…it sure seems to them that life has little to no value, it just comes down to what is most convenient…

  2. Cynthia Says:

    I loved your post yesterday.

    I love your post today.

    …………yes great minds do think alike!!!

  3. tonyyork Says:

    I have weighed in before on this subject and because I have personal insight, I will weigh in again.

    My wife and I had to make a decision about abortion with our first child. We were both 21 and wanted this child. The doctors told us that she was non-viable and had scheduled the abortion because they didn’t want us to wait too long and miss the window of opportunity to have it done legally in Ohio.

    My non-viable fetus was born at 24 weeks gestation. She weighed 1 lb 8 ounces and fit in my hand. She’s had me wrapped around her little finger since and that was almost 16 years ago.

    My once non-viable, 24-week-gestation fetus calls me daddy and gives the greatest hugs.

    I thank God that He gave us the strength to say “No”.

    And my heart breaks for all those parents who live with horrible questions every “would-have-been-birthday”. God loves you just as much as He is loving on your child today.

  4. Read Tony’s blog and check out his family for more of the story and pix.

    Good post today and yesterday Heidi. I have only one question: want to tell me how you really feel? :)

  5. candidchatter Says:

    Tony’s story inspires me. He’s told me about it before. If anyone understands the heartache I felt at the loss of my baby last year, it’s Tony. Definitely.

    Bill: LOL!! Well, I guess I didn’t hold it back again. Silly me.

    Steve: Exactly.

    Cynthia: Thank you sweets. And aren’t we the geniuses. We are. We are.

    Heidi

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  7. Will_nottheactor Says:

    Write on, Heidi! No confusion here – the answer is none of the above!! I remember a story in a Focus on the Family newsletter from several years back, where a doctor got smacked upside the head by the Holy 2×4 during the preforming of an abortion. He inserted the needle for the saline injection, and the baby grabbed it! The doctor let go and the syringe started moving around because the baby had a firm grip of the needle. Talk about conviction!

    Awesome proof, Tony!

  8. candidchatter Says:

    So, Will, did the baby live?
    Thanks for commenting. :)

    Heidi

  9. Mark Says:

    Heidi,

    Love your site, and the thought-provoking topics. Firstly let me say that my wife and I do not believe in abortion if it can be avoided at all (ectopic prognancies etc might be the only reason we would consider one).

    I would like to share the story of our last pregnancy with you. At the first scan, there was some concern by the medical staff that the baby (I wont call it a fetus) could possibly have Down’s Syndrome. We refused amniocentesis (Spelling?) as if it had been proven there would have been no treatment but only risk that the baby could die due to the test – is this test just used to inform parents that they need to have an abortion? Anyway, my wife did have a blood test to see if they could find out anything that way. I received the phone call with the results, and I quote: “Based on the mother’s age and the blood test, there is a one in six chance that the baby has Down’s Syndrome – do you want to book the abortion now?” It was still legal in the UK at about 22 weeks, but we refused withhout hesitation.

    So it would seem at least some of the medical profession would be quite happy to kill five totally ‘normal’ babies in order to make sure that one ‘different’ baby isn’t born.

    Anyway, forward to the birth – he came so quickly on his due day that I didn’t even have time to call an ambulance – he was born on the floor at home (Thank God for wooden floors!) with our eldest daughter and me as attending midwives (Amateur of course) and is our little Miracle. It transpires that he does indeed have Trisomy 21 (we prefer this rather than Down’’s Syndrome) and so has potential challenges ahead. recently however I have started to compare him to the baby Jack-Jack from the movie ‘The Incredibles’ – he has super powers, we’re just not sure what they are yet. He has just turned one and is quite determined to do all the things his older brother can do – he is waving to me across the room at the moment as he eats his lunch. He is also quite a contortionist, being able to put his leg behind his head when he wants to.

    If you would like a scripture to define when a baby is alive, one example among many is: “For the life of the flesh is in the blood” – Leviticus 17v11. I don’t pretend to know when this is, but from your photos perhaps some time before the heartbeat of week 6? Well before the time at about week 24 where an abortion would still be legal here in the UK.

    If anyone reading this has already had an abortion and starting to have doubts, let me encourage you that it is possible to receive forgiveness.

    God Bless

    Mark

  10. candidchatter Says:

    Mark: When I was pregnant with Jaxon (my youngest), I was told he had a choroid plexus cyst on his brain. The docs mentioned Trisomy 18 as well as Trisomy 21 as possible reasons for the cyst. I had to meet several times with a neonatologist for ultrasound after ultrasound. He suggested twice that because of my age (35) that I have an amnio. I said “no” the first time. The 2nd time I explained to him that I don’t care if my child is born with myriad deformities that I would not terminate the pregnancy so an amnio was unnecessary. The cyst went away all on its own (which is very common) and all subsequent tests came back normal. We have a normal 4 month old. I can’t imagine how many healthy babies have been terminated just with the news “your baby has a cyst on its brain” without further testing. I am sure it happens.

    I applaud you for keeping your precious son and WOW at his birth. That would scare me more than his situation with Tri21. Yikes! I would have been so nervous and good for you and your daughter for being the attending “physicians”. :) Congrats on your beautiful family and may God bless you all. Thanks for your comment.

    Heidi Reed

  11. Amy Says:

    Mark,

    I appreciate your comment on forgiveness more than you can imagine. I had an abortion when I was 16 years old. The baby was at 6 weeks. I am 30 now, and have a beautiful 3 year old daughter. I have found Jesus, and purpose in life, but….I will never forget or stop regretting that decision I made as a child. I believe I would not have been a good mother at 16 years old. and I did not have the kind of parents who would have been supportive. But the thing that hurts the most now is when I see the bumper stickers and advertisements against abortion, it tears my heart out. I think about that child and what I did to him/her everyday. I made the ultimate mistake. I do not believe abortion is okay in any way, but I do wish people were more sensitive to those of us who made that horrible choice and have to live with the guilt for the rest of our lives. Thank God for His grace. The only thing that gets me through is knowing I am forgiven in the eyes of the Lord.

    God Bless

  12. I’ve missed this ongoing conversation.. We’ve had minor fertility issues and when unexpectedly pregnant with #4, our ob was aware that we believe ALL babies are from God. Multiple “offers” to consider termination due to many possible and confirmed diagnosis. We refused to even consider amniocentesis, let alone abortion. While we only had 6 1/2 months here with Seth, we wouldn’t trade those months for the world..

    I know we’ll see him again in Heaven, and Im with Mark. I ‘d encourage all women who’ve had an abortion to seek forgiveness, know that they are covered by the blood of Christ and they will have the opportunity to come to know that sweet soul for eternity.

  13. Lingkhecang Says:

    The regrets will never go away. No matter how long you have been away from the abortion,it stays in you, your mind, your heart, and soul.

  14. Jenni Says:

    If it has a heartbeat, its living, and if its a human, & living, abortion is MURDER. i don’t care what anyone says. I believe that if your 11, and raped, then that is different. that is a child of hate, and that baby can ruin this baby’s life, because an 11 year old is a baby. but if your 14 and up, your a capable of having a child. not keeping, but having. there are many couples who cannot have children, who would love to adopt. you must look at the options you have.

  15. karina Says:

    I understand where you all are coming from & I myself don’t think abortion is right…but it can be the only or best decision to some.
    I’m 18 and I’m a month and a half pregnant: the guy that I was with for a couple months that said he would take care of me if this was to ever happen left me as soon as he found out and asked an ex to marry him to get out of it, my divorced parents which still live together have told me that if this was to ever happen I would be kicked out, my dad has beaten me many times, I’m in college, I spend my free time protecting my mom and younger sister from my dad and myself because he molested me when I was 6 yrs. old. So even though I accept the fact that I could have done so much more to prevent this from happening, and that I am no child and should take responsibility…I also realize that this baby would have a terrible life in the situation I’m in. And I’m not saying my decision is right…but I have no other choice. I have nowhere to go and no-one to trust. I’m alone, and I know that I will one day regret the decision I have made of having an abortion, but there is no other way…if my dad finds out he will not only beat me, but I will be homeless like I have been before.
    Only thing I can really say I have learned from this is that no-one should stop thinking about their future and the baby that can be created, for a small period of “pleasure”. I have learned my lesson thanks to a terrible consequence I could have avoided…and my heart is broken because this is not something I ever wanted to go through…but there is no going back…only forward and preventing this from happening again…and also educating and talking to my siblings about safe sex and the consequences of not practicing it.
    This is a life changing experience and I’m so sorry…but like I said, there is no other way. Just to REALLY learn from it.

  16. elizabeth Says:

    karina,

    you have had to live with some really terrible circumstances and I am so sorry to hear them. please look up a place in your city that houses pregnant mothers that need help. it might be a turning point in your life-you deserve to have a safe place to live. many covenant care organizations can house and feed you and then facilitate an adoption when the time comes. at least if you checked them out they could give you some positive loving guidance which you need. i dont know what city you live in but most will have some help for you and I encourage you to call around! take care of yourself and love in christ-elizabeth


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